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Mr. Frank Doran (Aberdeen, Central): I am pleased to initiate this
debate, because my constituents and people throughout Scotland who subscribe to
the services of Atlantic Telecom are facing serious problems. The company
appeared to be successful, but it went into administration in October, leaving
its many thousands of cable customers in the lurch. On 9 November, telephone
services were completely withdrawn. I propose to focus less on the short-term
issues, however important, than on the longer-term consequences of the collapse.
I am grateful to the Minister for E-Commerce and Competitiveness and to the
Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning in the Scottish Executive - by happy
chance his sister, making it a family affair - for working together to find the
funds for an emergency system that will allow telephone calls to continue in
affected cities. It is only a short-term solution, and by the end of January
2002 the problems faced particularly by businesses will not have gone away.
Mr. Malcolm Savidge (Aberdeen, North): Does my hon. Friend agree that
this problem shows the weakness of existing legislation? If it were not for the
helpful actions of the Minister and his sister and of British Telecom, the
crisis would indeed have been grave.
Mr. Doran: My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Although I am grateful to
the Minister for spending £500,000 of public money on the rescue effort, it
shows that the structural problems are deep.
I have heard various figures for the number of Atlantic Telecom customers. BT
told me that the number was 16,000. However, the Atlantic Telecom figure is
nearer 12,000 customers, 2,000 of which are businesses that are concentrated
mainly in Aberdeen, but are also in Dundee, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester.
Domestic consumers have been seriously hit. Telephone services were withdrawn
with minimum notice. Most people found out from the local newspaper on the
morning that the services were withdrawn that they would not be able to make
telephone calls. However, most domestic consumers have been able to have lines
installed or get on to a programme to have lines installed.
The most serious consequences have fallen on the business consumers. This is the
second collapse of a telephone supplier since competition was introduced in the
telephone industry. It is the largest and the most significant collapse, and
there are serious lessons to be learned from it, the most important of which is
that there is almost no protection for the consumer in the regulatory system.All
consumers were given notice of the intention to withdraw what the Office of
Telecommunications calls "the complete service". The minimum legal obligation on
a telephone provider when it decides to withdraw a service is to give 14 days'
written notice to its subscribers of its intention. It has to provide access to
emergency numbers only, so consumers cannot make outgoing calls, but they can
receive incoming calls. In the case of
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Atlantic Telecom, the 14 days' notice expired on 25 November. I mentioned
earlier the rescue plan that has been put in place, and I have tested the
system. People are receiving calls, which is important.
By far the most serious consequence for businesses has been the fact that, if
they had an Atlantic Telecom line, they have lost that number.
Miss Anne Begg (Aberdeen, South): A taxi company in Aberdeen has suffered
as a result of the collapse of Atlantic Telecom. If someone is drunk in Union
street in Aberdeen and is looking for a taxi, especially on a Saturday night,
that company's number might be the only one that they remember or that is
pre-programmed into their mobile phone. The loss of a well-known number is very
serious, especially for a taxi company.
Mr. Doran: I agree with my hon. Friend, although I do not accept that
anyone is drunk in Union street in the heart of my constituency on a Saturday
night. That apart, I agree entirely.
I will give some examples of businesses that have been affected. My hon. Friend
mentioned Abcabs, which is a small business in my constituency that started up
three years ago. It was extremely successful and is now the third most used taxi
company in Aberdeen. It had a very memorable number - 45 45 45 - and got a lot of
business from that. On 9 November, it learned that its telephone service was to
be withdrawn. It was in an awkward position, because it had foreseen the
problems with Atlantic Telecom and had asked BT to install a new system.
That system was in place and was due to be implemented on the Wednesday after
Atlantic Telecom went bust. In the meantime, the company was using its Atlantic
Telecom number to forward calls to its new system. No calls were forwarded,
because the Atlantic Telecom system could not make outgoing calls. For a company
that expects 2,000 calls a day at the weekend, the sudden disconnection of the
telephone line has had a devastating effect on its business. It advertised for
three years, invested in literature, and put the number on its cabs—a huge
investment—but what it considered its most valuable business asset was suddenly
pulled away.
Another small company, Aberdeen North-East Heating Ltd., supplies and fits
boilers. It is five years old and began work in a rural area but set up in the
city three years ago. The company, which is important in my constituency,
supplies about 120 to 130 boilers a year and is an approved contractor for the
Government's energy efficiency scheme. It tracks its advertising, which appears
only in Yellow Pages and on yell.com, and knows exactly where its business comes
from. Ninety per cent. of its business comes from the Yellow Pages
advertisement.
The company's telephone number has been taken away. Yes, it can still receive
incoming calls and, because of the Minister's intervention, will be able to do
so until the end of January, when it will have to reconsider its position. The
problem is that people do not use a heating company every day of the week. They
go to Yellow Pages and run through the list to pick someone who suits their
needs, based on an advertisement that attracts them. Yellow Pages in Aberdeen
will not be republished until June, which is six months later.
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The company is looking at other means of advertising - it will do everything that
it can to let the citizens of Aberdeen know about the business - and there will be
a small amount of business from word of mouth, but it feels that 90 per cent. of
its business will collapse from the end of January. That successful small
business, which employs four people, is afraid for its future.
Those examples show that serious consequences stem from the loss of a telephone
number. The Office of Telecommunications, which is the industry regulator, has
spent a great deal of time and used much advertising space to tell us about
portability. Telephone numbers are supposed to be portable. I looked on its
website and picked out a couple of random statements. One is from a review of
portability that was published in 1998:
"Changing number can be a major inconvenience for customers and a barrier which
prevents them from exercising choice and taking advantage of growing competition
in the telecommunication market. Number portability means that customers can
change to a new operator without the hassle of having to change their number."
We all welcomed that important statement as a sign of progress in the newly
liberalised telephone market, but what happens when an operator goes into
administration or withdraws from the market? Atlantic Telecom customers
discovered that portability was meaningless because, when the company collapsed,
Oftel automatically reclaimed all the numbers. I asked Oftel why the numbers
could not be reallocated to BT, which had put in the emergency services and was
to be the new provider. I was told that the numbers could be redistributed only
in tranches of 10,000 numbers, and that there were various technical reasons why
the numbers could not be transferred. I understand those reasons, but it seems
that the system militates against the consumer. There is a drive for
portability, which is sold as a benefit of the system, but in practice there is
no portability if the supplier does not continue in business.
A problem with competition is that there will be failures, even if they are not
as spectacular as Atlantic Telecom's. From my experience of the gas market,
which I know a little better than the telecoms market, I know that companies
come and go. They may not go bust, but if they do not achieve their aspirations,
they will move on to other areas in which they prefer to invest their money. In
this age of communication, customers are put at a distinct disadvantage in such
a situation.
I am uncertain about one matter, which I would like the Minister to address. I
asked for a short brief on the consequences of reclaiming the numbers and what
it would mean for existing consumers who had already transferred their number to
another organisation, such as BT, and were no longer Atlantic Telecom customers
at the time of the collapse. The response stated that
"if a number was allocated by Atlantic this cannot be ported to a new supplier.
Number portability obligations on telecoms operators work on the basis of
reasonableness and although it would be possible for all Atlantic's numbers to
be transferred to other operators, this would be technically difficult and
expensive as it would require operators to reconfigure the databases in their
exchanges to recognise the new numbers."
I would appreciate it if the Minister would tell me whether I am interpreting
this correctly. The response seems to say that, as well as existing customers,
any customers during the lifetime of Atlantic Telecom who
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took their numbers to a new supplier such as BT will lose their number, despite
not being a customer at the time of the collapse. That seems to me the logical
interpretation of that response.
What protection is there for consumers in that situation? If I have read the
response correctly, it implies that portability depends on the liquidity of the
supply company and on historical factors. It is a serious situation, and I have
tried to understand why it has occurred. I understand the technical reasons and
financial consequences—I have been told that it may cost as much as £1 million
for BT to take all the Atlantic Telecom numbers and reconfigure its own system
to deal with them. However, I cannot understand why the relatively small number
of consumers who decide to take advantage of portability should be punished and
put at risk. I still do not know whether that is happening because it is more
convenient for or a requirement of the regulator. I do not accept that we cannot
devise a regulatory system that protects consumers, or that the problems of
technical difficulty and cost in transferring telephone numbers between
companies to sustain the portability principle are insurmountable. The system
seems to operate for the convenience of the industry, not the consumers.
Miss Begg: There has been a failure of regulation in television, which
is another aspect of Atlantic Telecom's business. It took over Aberdeen Cable,
but the business went bust before the telephone system went down. People in
Aberdeen arrived home to discover a message on their television to say that they
had lost their service. There is a problem with regulation, or more particularly
consumer protection. We must ensure that people continue to have a service when
companies go bust.
Mr. Doran: That is right. We are shortly to have a telecommunications
Bill, and I hope that that topic will be addressed.
Mr. Savidge: My point follows that made by my hon. Friend the Member for
Aberdeen, South (Miss Begg). My hon. Friend has rightly concentrated on the
business implications, but it is important to emphasise that domestic customers
who lost both their television and telephone service at the same time have been
caused considerable stress.
Mr. Doran: Again, I accept that point, and I hope that it will be
addressed in the telecommunications Bill.
There are serious implications for competition in the telecoms industry. The
collapse of Atlantic Telecom has shown that there is no protection for the
consumer in this new era of competition in the telephone industry. In any
competitive situation, some companies will succeed while others fail. If a
company fails or decides to pull out of the market, services are liable to be
withdrawn overnight and telephone numbers, which may be a small business's
single biggest asset, could be taken away without compensation. That would have
a devastating effect on the businesses concerned.
The issue is not local to Aberdeen and the other centres that I have mentioned;
it affects the whole industry. We encourage individuals and businesses to enjoy
the new marketplace in telephone services,
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but there is no health warning and nothing to tell consumers of the risks that
they are running. If consumers knew the risks that they were taking, would there
be any competition in the telephone market? Would consumers take the risk of
leaving large but apparently stable companies such as BT to sign up to companies
like Atlantic Telecom? If they knew the whole picture, I doubt that they would.
What incentive would they have under the current regulatory framework?
The Minister and the Scottish Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning have
done everything possible to mitigate the immediate effects. I take their
intervention as an admission of the seriousness of the problem. They have dealt
with the short term, but the long term must involve a complete overhaul of the
regulations governing the telecoms industry in order to give consumers more
protection and tilt the balance away from the industry. I welcome the Minister's
public statement at the weekend that he will consider the regulatory framework.
All the evidence from Atlantic Telecom's collapse is that such a review is
needed extremely urgently.
12.46 pm
The Minister for E-Commerce and Competitiveness (Mr. Douglas Alexander):
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen, Central (Mr. Doran) on
securing the debate. I acknowledge his diligence in representing his
constituents' interests at this difficult time, following the failure of
Atlantic Telecom. I welcome the debate as an opportunity to place in context the
announcement that the Scottish Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning and
I made on Saturday afternoon. I hope that I can assure my hon. Friend and others
affected by the closure of Atlantic Telecom that, working together, the Minister
and I are doing everything possible to ensure a smooth transfer of telecoms
services.
I shall address the circumstances of the weekend's events, before discussing how
I intend to take forward the policy issues raised by my hon. Friend. Atlantic
Telecom was a company of about 260 employees, with a total of 128,000
customers - 7,000 of whom were business customers - covering the cities of Glasgow,
Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen and Manchester. As my hon. Friend said, the
challenge was not confined to the Aberdeen area.
Some of those customers were served by a fixed wireless access telephone system.
The company was established in 1991. Atlantic Telecom went into administration
on 5 October 2001. At the time, there was a fair degree of confidence that the
company would be sold. However, five weeks later, on 8 November, the
administrators concluded that they could not sell the company as a going concern
and duly informed Oftel that the fixed-wireless network was likely to be
switched off shortly, without notice to customers.
Administrators are appointed by a court to try to rescue a failing company or to
achieve a better return for its creditors. To help them to do that, the company
is protected from any legal action while the administrators are in place. That
includes enforcement action by Oftel,
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which is the independent regulator established under the Telecommunications Act
1984. It is specifically charged with responsibility for promoting the interests
of consumers and ensuring that telecoms services are provided in the UK to meet
all reasonable demands. Oftel cannot require an administrator to act in breach
of its duty, but after intensive discussions on 8 and 9 November, it agreed that
the administrators would maintain the network with a minimum service until 25
November. It also agreed that the administrator would give all customers
immediate written notice to that effect.
The Government hold the view that competition brings choice of services to
customers, encourages innovation and drives down prices. That is why we believe
in promoting competition widely. It is a fact of life that, in a competitive
environment, not all companies are guaranteed to succeed, as my hon. Friend
said. When a telecoms company fails, the customers can usually be easily
transferred to alternative suppliers. Indeed, that has happened for most of
Atlantic's customers. Those using Atlantic's indirect access service have a wide
choice of alternative suppliers. Those using Atlantic's fixed-line network have
been able to transfer to BT or another cable operator.
BT and other telecommunications companies that have received orders for new
lines have been working as fast as possible to process the orders. However, it
was proving impossible for BT or any other company to provide services to
everyone by Sunday 25 November, when the administrator planned to switch off the
Atlantic network. Some of Atlantic's customers would have realised only late in
the day that they had to make alternative arrangements for their telephone
services. That is why the Government, the Department of Trade and Industry and
the Scottish Executive resolved to act to ensure that Atlantic's
customers, particularly its business customers, were given a reasonable time to
make the switch to an alternative network provider before the Atlantic network
was completely switched off.
Mr. Savidge: My hon. Friend mentioned that Atlantic Telecom used fixed
radio access. Did that technical issue make the problem worse?
Mr. Alexander: I thank my hon. Friend for that contribution. We
struggled with several technical issues during the hours immediately before the
switch-off. One of those was the nature of the access provided by Atlantic
Telecom. As I understand it, following the provision of a wireless service,
lines into some properties had been removed. That obviously made the problem
more complicated and increased the delays for those seeking alternative line
access. Despite the technical constraints, BT and other telecom companies that
received orders for the new lines worked as fast as possible to process them.
I met my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen, Central on 19 November and he
spelled out the concerns of his constituents at that DTI meeting. The following
day I met the director general of Oftel and expressed my resolve that everything
possible should be done to smooth the transfer of customers from Atlantic to
other operators. On 21 November, I met my hon. Friends the Members for
Edinburgh, North and Leith
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(Mr. Lazarowicz) and for Aberdeen, South (Miss Begg), who explained the problems
that their constituents were having in transferring telephone numbers and
obtaining alternative operators. I pay tribute to all those hon. Members for
their effective and constructive representation of their constituents.
The next day I arranged to meet the chief executive of BT, Sir Peter Bonfield,
and the group commercial director, Colin Green, to seek their assistance in
expediting the connection of Atlantic customers. At that meeting, Sir Peter
assured me that BT would do all it could to help facilitate a quick transfer of
customers. He confirmed that the company had already diverted resources from
elsewhere to help speed up the process, and that it would work closely with
Oftel and the DTI to minimise the disruption to Atlantic's customers.
The Scottish Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning, my sister, Wendy
Alexander, met the Stop Atlantic Closure campaign on 21 November and again on 23
November. She also met the administrators on 22 November and the Scottish
Chambers of Commerce and Scottish Enterprise on 23 November. From those meetings
we were clear about the importance to Atlantic's business customers of not
losing telecom services for any period, and about the difficulties surrounding
the transfer of numbers.
We required a complex deal. We needed to persuade the administrators to keep the
Atlantic network running long enough for Atlantic's customers to obtain telecom
services from BT or other operators, but all customers with a number from
Atlantic's allocation would lose its use as soon as the network was switched
off. We therefore decided that the Atlantic network must be kept running until
customers had had a reasonable time to organise alternative arrangements. For an
interim period, a messaging service was also needed to provide the new telephone
numbers when calls were made to the old Atlantic ones.
The administrators would not fund that arrangement, so we quickly secured the
Treasury's approval and considered whether providing public money to support
businesses in that way would constitute state aid, which the European Commission
permits only in limited circumstances. We believe that the money meets
well-established criteria for rescue aid. This week, we are notifying the
Commission of that aid, and we believe that it will be approved.
I pay tribute not only to the Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning, but
to my officials in the DTI, the Scottish Executive and the staff of Oftel who,
under considerable pressure, worked flat out on this package on Thursday, past
midnight on Friday and again on Saturday morning. Everything was in place and
the deal was concluded with the administrators by Saturday afternoon, when we
notified the campaigners and announced the deal publicly.
As part of the deal, we are working with Oftel and telecom companies to ensure
that a message to every caller on the old Atlantic numbers provides the
appropriate new numbers. That service will remain in place during Christmas and
new year. By 2 January 2002, not only will all Atlantic's fixed wireless
customers have working fixed lines, but businesses will have had several weeks
to advertise new numbers. Some of those who benefit from the messaging service
will want it to
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remain for longer, so at least one switch in the Atlantic network will have to
continue operating. Those customers must arrange the financing.
Assuming that people act on the notice of network closure from the
administrator, the rescue package announced on Saturday will ensure that 12,000
residential users and 2,000 businesses have time to get a new telephone line and
to advertise the new number. This time of year is traditionally busy, and the
£500,000 grant provided by the DTI and the Scottish Executive is essential to
maintaining vital telephone services. We have financed the administrators to
keep the Atlantic network operating with a messaging service up to 2 January
2002.
I want to consider the regulatory regime under which the events took place. In
future, the regulatory regime should provide adequate consumer protection in a
fully competitive telecommunications market. The regime presently provides
several safeguards, the terms of which merit consideration.
Mr. Doran: I see that the Minister is on the last page of his speech,
and I do not want him to sit down without addressing the concerns of business
consumers, who are losing a major business asset. What does he have to say to
them?
Mr. Alexander: My hon. Friend asked whether customers who moved from
Atlantic before it went into administration, and who transferred their old
numbers to an alternative supplier, would lose those numbers when the network
closes. That is the case, because of the technical difficulties, but the
possibility remains of further discussion about a messaging service based on a
single Atlantic Telecom switch.
Under current terms, BT is subject to a universal service obligation. It will
provide a service to all Atlantic's customers who make a reasonable request.
Other operators, such as Telewest Broadband and Thus, are also taking
ex-Atlantic customers. It should be possible for all Atlantic's fixed wireless
customers (business and residential) who had placed an order with another operator
for a replacement service by last Sunday to receive that service in two weeks, or
four at most.
As for portability, telephone customers have the right under present
arrangements to require the transfer of a telephone number from the existing
operator to a new operator if that is reasonable. However, I draw my hon.
Friend's attention to the terms of that definition, especially the word
"reasonable". It is for the operator to judge what is reasonable, although
ultimately it may be a matter for the director general of Oftel, who would
consider whether the operator had complied with its obligation on number
portability.
It is technically possible for all Atlantic's numbers to be transferred to BT,
but it would have to rebuild the databases at each of its exchanges. BT has
intimated in discussions with the regulator that that would cost about £1
million (an amount that the company does not consider reasonable) and would take
several weeks to complete. Given the technical and operational characteristics
of Atlantic's telecommunications system, similar difficulties would arise if
numbers were transferred to other operators. Ultimately, the director general of
Oftel may have to consider the reasonableness of a request for a number.
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The Atlantic case has shown the clear limitations of present customer protection
measures. Now that the rescue package is in place, I assure my hon. Friend that
I shall review whether steps should be taken in the light of those limitations.
I welcome the views of all hon. Members, as we seek to establish appropriate
further action. My hon. Friend accepted that providing such assistance is not
something that the Government do lightly. Atlantic did not ask for assistance.
We took action because the administrator, acting in the interests of the
creditors, announced that the network would be switched off faster than
Atlantic's customers could transfer to alternative operators. For reasons beyond
their control, that placed those customers, especially businesses, at unacceptable
risk. Jobs were clearly at stake at a peak period of the year for many of the
companies, and at an especially sensitive time for their employees.
We have listened to Atlantic's customers. The DTI, in close partnership with the
Scottish Executive and Oftel, worked hard and fast under real time restrictions
to find what we believed was a workable solution. The other operators have also
played their part...
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